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Walgreen's Slabs

#21
(10-14-2011, 02:53 PM)Ernesto Wrote:  OMG I totally forgot about it could have been a dewpoint issue at the get-go! heh hehBig Grin

THAT'S IT BOB!!!! IT WAS THE DEW POINT DURING INSTALLATIONExclamationExclamationExclamation

Big GrinBig GrinBig GrinBig Grin
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(10-14-2011, 03:02 PM)CC Solutions Wrote:  
(10-14-2011, 02:53 PM)Ernesto Wrote:  OMG I totally forgot about it could have been a dewpoint issue at the get-go! heh hehBig Grin

THAT'S IT BOB!!!! IT WAS THE DEW POINT DURING INSTALLATIONExclamationExclamationExclamation

Big GrinBig GrinBig GrinBig Grin

How could you have missed it JD? Shame on you.

I was in there today talking to the manager and it was freezing azz cold in there. Plus you know those newer Walgreen's have all that new refrigerated sections in there.

This is what I live for, all those complications. I Heart it!
Stephen Perrera dba
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#23
(10-14-2011, 12:25 PM)CC Solutions Wrote:  [quote='Ernesto' pid='1527' dateline='1318618476']
Here's where you and I tend to disagree. I don't care what the water table is, what the drainage is like, I don't care if the building is floating on the sea. If there is a good vapor retarder the slab will not be affected by the water. If there isn't, I don't care to even test it, just mitigate it.



I'm thinking right now the guy is looking for another answer to keep him from buying the floor. If your not going to test in situations like this how would you be sure it's a moisture problem? Ya just can't go running around willy nilly and say mitigate if there's no need to.

Besides, Jason needs you to use up his sensors.
Stephen Perrera dba
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#24
I can't see any text in my last post, must be that ornery IE9. grrrrr

Anyway, I drilled it today. And one thing I've never see before was I hit red concrete or something red. Kind freaked me out and I stopped for a second to regain my composure.......but then I said hell with it I'm going down.

So anyone hit red concrete before? Maybe it was some dirt, i dunno.
Stephen Perrera dba
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#25
Well I got my first "Hi" readings, all of them.
Stephen Perrera dba
Top Floor Installation Co.
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http://www.floorsavior.com
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#26
Yeah, it would have to be 83 degrees and 60% RH to have condensation issues on a 67 degree slab.... It just shouldn't happen if you are following manufacturer's guidelines....

You hit red! It's really common in the states around the Great Lakes because a lot of the RM plants use washed stone and it contains a lot of colored stone. We have red and dark grey, some green and tan... You never know what color is coming up in the dust. At least you know if you stop right in the center of some aggregate!
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#27
Found out more today. The guy who did the first last rh tests would only say they ran high and would not give them a report because he didn't want to get involved in a legal battle. Huh

I ask, why the heck are you doing them in the first place. I hope he didn't get paid.

Company that installed the vct claims they did test and use a sealer but not puttin up the pudding.
Stephen Perrera dba
Top Floor Installation Co.
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(10-17-2011, 05:21 PM)Ernesto Wrote:  Found out more today. The guy who did the first last rh tests would only say they ran high and would not give them a report because he didn't want to get involved in a legal battle. Huh

I ask, why the heck are you doing them in the first place. I hope he didn't get paid.

Company that installed the vct claims they did test and use a sealer but not puttin up the pudding.

I'm not surprised. Everybody is willing to take the money, but nobody is there when the failure happens. How about the 'no report' guy? If he does a proper test, all he is doing is reporting what he did.
I compete with guys like this! They lowball a price and disappear when the check clears. Dodgy
JD Grafton
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#29
There isn't all that much liability in doing the testing. The issue becomes when the issue happens, how much 'support' do you provide to help them through the headache.

In California I've been involved in many of these deals. Often you can pour in time and effort just to have a low bid shop come in and cut you out of doing the 'real work' or they just put it out to low bid.

If the thing comes in wet and you know they don't have the money to repair it; Then they would need to get legal to pay to repair the floor, then you have to be very careful about the service (read money) you provide for free. Sounds like the original tester saw there wasn't much upside of doing more basic work.

Another thing to be careful about is most of these big box stores have their own installation crews. They travel the country in a convoy of pickups and trailers and pound these jobs out for corporate. So they may just want some cheap testing so that their own crews know what they are driving 700mi to do.
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#30
Well if I had the resources I would love to jump in on the mitigation gravy train. But for now all I'm doing is delivering answers to questions. I get paid for it and not afraid to show up in court.
Stephen Perrera dba
Top Floor Installation Co.
http://www.tucsonazflooring.com
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