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RH Numbers Rising
09-20-2011, 08:30 PM,
#91
RE: RH Numbers Rising
Have you tried the new Forti Finish? I just haven't found anyone using it straight yet.
JD Grafton
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09-21-2011, 08:19 PM,
#92
RE: RH Numbers Rising
I don't think it is avaliable here unless a concrete speciality supply has it. I don't see where it says you should or can mix it.

http://www.ardex.com/cms/Assets/Products/Documentation/ardex-fortifinish-tech-us-e.pdf
Stephen Perrera dba
Top Floor Installation Co.
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09-21-2011, 09:18 PM,
#93
RE: RH Numbers Rising
I don't think anyone should mix products, but a lot of installers sure do!
JD Grafton
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09-22-2011, 08:39 AM,
#94
RE: RH Numbers Rising
I am interested in the fortifinish. If you use it please give thoughts. Our installers are in the process of learning to work with tec/chapco patch which is supposed to be more substantial than ardex ff
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09-22-2011, 09:28 AM,
#95
RE: RH Numbers Rising
The FF is a great product, smooth and easy to use... But under OR tables and high stress areas I have found it just doesn't have the tensile strength needed to hold up.
I used to recommend installers use SD-P in high stress areas that need some smoothing. It is stronger than FF.

Now Ardex has the Forti-Finish and their specs even say it's for use in high load areas like hospitals.

I see break down in patch under OR beds, especially orthopedic surgeons who seem to put the bed up on its legs and then just wrench on a patient's bones, twisting against the bed legs and really giving the flooring a workout. Also areas under portable CT scanners and in hallways where rolling loads change direction (intersections, doorways etc.) I have seen a lot of sheared patch compounds.

I have not tested the Forti-Finish to see how it stands up to twisting shearing loads. A lot of the installers I work for are using it on the advice of our local Ardex rep....
JD Grafton
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09-22-2011, 07:14 PM,
#96
RE: RH Numbers Rising
Instead of the local rep, you need to contact the main man....errr main girl or uh woman at Ardex, call or email TSchneider. She blogs over at FI.com. http://www.flooringinstaller.com/profile/TSchneider

Check out the Case Study for the medical facility that had multiple attempts at moisture remediation prior to them getting involved.

http://www.flooringinstaller.com/profiles/blogs/case-study-ardex-solves-1
Stephen Perrera dba
Top Floor Installation Co.
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http://www.floorsavior.com
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09-22-2011, 07:50 PM,
#97
RE: RH Numbers Rising
That is funny. Look at the blog posts.

They are almost all from my backyard. I know a lot of those jobs. Most are just poor design. I'm going to read through every post to see what I can learn.

http://www.flooringinstaller.com/profile/TSchneider
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09-22-2011, 08:00 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-22-2011, 08:07 PM by Ernesto.)
#98
RE: RH Numbers Rising
Well heck, then you should be able to walk over and talk to T! She is a pretty smart gal. Lucky you.

JD is not a believer though. Dodgy

http://www.linkedin.com/groupAnswers?viewQuestionAndAnswers=&discussionID=68278329&gid=3724612&goback=%2Egmp_3724612
Stephen Perrera dba
Top Floor Installation Co.
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09-22-2011, 08:48 PM,
#99
RE: RH Numbers Rising
bummer linkedin. I don't do linkedin or the facebook. My friends and I try to avoid such things.
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09-23-2011, 05:54 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-23-2011, 06:05 AM by CC Solutions.)
RE: RH Numbers Rising
Tonya is pretty new. I know all the Ardex boys in Aliquippa though.

Tonya and Bill were running around the state together a couple months ago and I was supposed to meet her, but I didn't have the time. Word on the streets is that she is new, but she's good. Ardex has a lot of good people...
(09-22-2011, 07:14 PM)Ernesto Wrote:  Instead of the local rep, you need to contact the main man....errr main girl or uh woman at Ardex, call or email TSchneider. She blogs over at FI.com. http://www.flooringinstaller.com/profile/TSchneider

Check out the Case Study for the medical facility that had multiple attempts at moisture remediation prior to them getting involved.

http://www.flooringinstaller.com/profiles/blogs/case-study-ardex-solves-1

Yeah yeah yeah, these case study blurbs are fluff. Let's see some real details! What was attempted for moisture mitigation previously? Were core samples pulled? Where was the failure plane? Who did the testing?

What you guys are reading is sales propaganda. Floor failed, we fixed it, we're great.

Don't get me wrong, I love Ardex, but you have to look at the details of these case studies to even begin to know how a product may fit into your business.

These same blurbs are posted for silicate applicators and all the spray and prays. "Floor failed previously, I wore my lucky hat sold by Ronco Floor Systems and the new floor is great!"

I want to see the data. Big Grin
JD Grafton
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