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RE: RH Testing Thick Slabs - CC Solutions - 10-13-2012 08:29 PM
You guys are so funny!
The slab will be wetter the deeper you go, because it dries out the top. So if you go full depth of the reader and it is too wet, then there's no point in going deeper!
Another thing you could do is core 4" hole down a few inches, remove that concrete, then place your probe at the 40% total depth.
But you guys already know.... It isn't going to be dry.... I've tested 14" slabs that were 3 years old that weren't dry yet.
RE: RH Testing Thick Slabs - Ernesto - 10-14-2012 08:19 AM
(10-13-2012 08:29 PM)CC Solutions Wrote: You guys are so funny!
The standard says what it says. How wet is to wet when trying to figure out how fast it is drying, or predict it? Of course if it is 100% then your right, but still, standards are standards.
Having enourmous amounts of open space below the sensor is much like having open space above the sensor., which I believe is one reason they updated 2170.
If that were the case then I could simply test at one half and inch and save some drill bit time.
RE: RH Testing Thick Slabs - CC Solutions - 10-14-2012 09:55 AM
Being that slabs dry to the top, you could drill down until you hit a point that exceeds the maximum level of RH and stop there.
I'm just saying it is easy to drill to 4" and check what you have. If it is too high, it will only get higher as you drill further down.
If you want to remove the top few inches of concrete to get your sensor down 6" I can't see how that would affect a short term reading.
RE: RH Testing Thick Slabs - Ernesto - 10-14-2012 07:46 PM
Your just jealous of my idea.
But I understand. Like testing a vct floor with adhesive bleed through. If you go down say 1 1/2 inches and it says Hi to ya, well then what else is there to say or do.
RE: RH Testing Thick Slabs - CC Solutions - 10-15-2012 06:07 AM
Exactly. But for accurate testing and reporting we still need to get down to that 40% mark to make our results unquestionable when scrutinized.
BTW... I have that oozing VCT glue all over my equipment and my shoes from a job we just did a week ago....
We powder it after we get the VCT off, but if you know of a better way to keep it off my shoes I'd love to hear it. Maybe I'll buy rubber boots to wear. The slip over hospital bootie things don't work so well.
RE: RH Testing Thick Slabs - CCR - 10-17-2012 01:07 PM
(Hope this pic attaches never tried this here before)
Wet enough for ya?
Guess it didn't work
RE: RH Testing Thick Slabs - Ernesto - 10-18-2012 08:01 PM
(10-17-2012 01:07 PM)CCR Wrote: (Hope this pic attaches never tried this here before)
Email it to me and I will post it if you want.
RE: RH Testing Thick Slabs - CCR - 10-19-2012 05:39 AM
Actually, its on my website. The shot of wet adhesive with the utility knife next to it. This moisture was so bad, one of my sensors filled up with watery adhesive between the time of placement and 72 hours later. Wish now I had taken a shot of that.
RE: RH Testing Thick Slabs - Ernesto - 10-19-2012 06:41 PM
[attachment=30]Yup, seen that often around here too.
RE: RH Testing Thick Slabs - Rubensgt40 - 10-23-2012 06:16 PM
JD is right, that the slab is only going to be worse deep down- but isn't the point of the standard to find the worst case scenario? These thick slabs clearly take a long time to dry.
Also, if you're a specialist whose job is to test slabs for flooring projects, and nothing but, you're bound to obey the letter of the standard. I'd like to see Wagner develop a nice, deep extendable sleeve. Then maybe put a little magnet on top of the reader and you can fish for it to get it out. Might be fun
Our biggest problem here is the "raft" style slabs which have border areas that are 300-600mm deep while the rest of the slab in 100mm. The main areas will be dry but the deep parts are still wet.