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RH Numbers Rising
09-11-2011, 03:54 PM (This post was last modified: 09-11-2011 03:57 PM by CC Solutions.)
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RE: RH Numbers Rising
I realize all the problems with the flooring industry, and the poor quality of slabs installers run across. My position is to educate about those problems and advise remedial measures.

When a slab is poured directly on the soil, you have no warranty, none, nada, zip, zilch, from any adhesive manufacturer. An installer should advise every owner that their warranty is directly affected by the quality of the slab and the vapor retarder.

I would never install a floor on a slab I was unsure of without a long discussion about the possible perils and the owner fully buying into the course of action. Why? Because I can make that slab failure-proof with a little money to do so. If the owner wants to cut corners, then I would either leave or promise there is no warranty....
(09-11-2011 08:25 AM)rthompson Wrote:  A slab on-grade with no vapor retarder can wick moisture as deep as 20 feet, depending on the fines content of the soil. That same slab is also capible of wicking moisture vapor as deep as 80 Feet. Any slab that is placed on-grade without a vapor retarder is not in compliance with ACI 302 or ASTM F710. Moisture will travel in and out of a dry slab due to humidity changes. In essence a contrete slab is a sponge in cement clothing.
Regards
Rayt

I fixed a slab in Vegas in the middle of the desert because of excessive moisture. I mitigated one built on top of a 100 foot tall hill that was sand as far down as an excavator could dig (and they dug pretty deep to put in elevator pits in the basement). Big Grin

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RH Numbers Rising - COD - 04-05-2011, 09:40 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - eaadams - 04-05-2011, 10:49 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 04-05-2011, 11:49 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - eaadams - 04-05-2011, 12:19 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 04-05-2011, 12:27 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - COD - 04-05-2011, 01:16 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 04-05-2011, 05:26 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 04-05-2011, 08:42 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 04-06-2011, 06:04 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 04-06-2011, 07:40 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 04-06-2011, 07:47 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 04-06-2011, 08:23 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 04-06-2011, 08:28 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 04-06-2011, 04:54 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 04-07-2011, 06:12 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - rthompson - 04-07-2011, 01:08 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 04-08-2011, 08:01 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 04-08-2011, 08:06 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - rthompson - 04-08-2011, 10:33 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - eaadams - 04-08-2011, 04:19 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 04-08-2011, 04:54 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - eaadams - 04-08-2011, 05:00 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 04-09-2011, 08:59 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - rthompson - 04-09-2011, 11:57 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 04-09-2011, 01:14 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - eaadams - 04-09-2011, 01:38 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 04-09-2011, 01:46 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - rthompson - 04-09-2011, 02:06 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 04-09-2011, 02:39 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 04-11-2011, 09:49 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 04-11-2011, 09:54 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 04-11-2011, 08:50 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - T_Schneider - 04-18-2011, 12:26 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 04-18-2011, 01:10 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - T_Schneider - 04-18-2011, 01:20 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 04-18-2011, 01:28 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 04-18-2011, 03:08 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - eaadams - 04-18-2011, 04:46 PM
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RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 04-18-2011, 05:15 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 04-20-2011, 07:58 AM
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RE: RH Numbers Rising - rthompson - 04-20-2011, 05:15 PM
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RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 04-23-2011, 07:01 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - rthompson - 04-23-2011, 07:59 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 04-23-2011, 08:59 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - rthompson - 04-23-2011, 10:01 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 04-24-2011, 08:24 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - eaadams - 09-08-2011, 06:08 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-09-2011, 08:11 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - rthompson - 09-09-2011, 09:36 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 09-09-2011, 04:48 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-10-2011, 07:47 AM
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RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-10-2011, 06:30 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 09-11-2011, 08:22 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - rthompson - 09-11-2011, 08:25 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 09-11-2011, 08:40 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-11-2011 03:54 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 09-11-2011, 06:50 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - rthompson - 09-12-2011, 08:56 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-12-2011, 09:07 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 09-12-2011, 05:14 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-12-2011, 05:33 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 09-12-2011, 07:27 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-13-2011, 05:52 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 09-13-2011, 07:49 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - rthompson - 09-13-2011, 08:37 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-13-2011, 08:43 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 09-13-2011, 10:08 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-13-2011, 11:28 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 09-13-2011, 01:37 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-13-2011, 01:55 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - eaadams - 09-13-2011, 02:14 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 09-13-2011, 02:17 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - eaadams - 09-13-2011, 02:18 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-13-2011, 02:33 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 09-13-2011, 05:26 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - eaadams - 09-13-2011, 05:46 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-13-2011, 05:52 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - eaadams - 09-13-2011, 05:56 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-13-2011, 06:03 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - eaadams - 09-13-2011, 06:06 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 09-13-2011, 07:23 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 09-14-2011, 06:29 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-14-2011, 06:54 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 09-14-2011, 07:39 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-15-2011, 04:59 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 09-20-2011, 08:07 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-20-2011, 08:30 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 09-21-2011, 08:19 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-21-2011, 09:18 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - eaadams - 09-22-2011, 08:39 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-22-2011, 09:28 AM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 09-22-2011, 07:14 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - eaadams - 09-22-2011, 07:50 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - Ernesto - 09-22-2011, 08:00 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - eaadams - 09-22-2011, 08:48 PM
RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-23-2011, 05:54 AM
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RE: RH Numbers Rising - CC Solutions - 09-23-2011, 10:37 AM