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11-10-2011, 07:34 PM #31
Ernesto Concrete Moisture Expert *****
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(11-10-2011, 07:08 PM)CC Solutions Wrote:  
(11-10-2011, 05:13 PM)Ernesto Wrote:  Or...or and or. But what if I test and my readings are under the prescribed limit?


If your readings are under the manufacturer's upper limit and you meet all the rest of the requirements, you will have a warranty. Other requirements are a functioning and proper vapor retarder and a porous surface that has a profile to it, as Bostik says, 'not smooth but like a broom finish', as well as many other requirements.

If you miss just one required parameter the manufacturer has a way out, and for good reason! They know the floor moisture could skyrocket with no vapor retarder.


(11-10-2011, 05:13 PM)Ernesto Wrote:  Hey, here is one of the leading underlayments for the industry as far as floating laminate and hardwood floors go. They claim it is 700 + percent more effective that other underlayments as far as moisture concerns go. See what test they require. Check it out;

http://www.floormuffler.com/ultraseal/installationinstructions.html

How is this a good vapor mitigation system? The instructions are " If installing over concrete, the concrete must be dry with moisture emission rates that do not exceed 3 lbs. per 1000 square feet per 24 hours as measured by the Anhydrous Calcium Chloride Test."

Sounds like it has to be dry before you even start! Tongue
(11-10-2011, 05:16 PM)eaadams Wrote:  Saw an add in Floor Covering Installer this month (came today) for Halex's Versashild and it claims to go to 95% RH. Going to circle that for info....

There are hundreds of products that claim to 'go to 95%' or more. Why not stick with the three or four that actually work? Huh


The way I read the Bostik requirements is that I only have to make one of them, not all of them.

As far as the floormuffler goes, welcome to my world. The way I see it, my options are...1) call their bluff and do a CaCl test with documentation, 2) just install the 1,100 sf of laminate and call it a day, or 3) throw some six mil under it...which I often do.


Stephen Perrera dba
Top Floor Installation Co.
http://www.tucsonazflooring.com
http://www.floorsavior.com








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MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Rubensgt40 - 11-06-2011, 02:24 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - eaadams - 11-06-2011, 03:25 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Rubensgt40 - 11-06-2011, 06:19 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - eaadams - 11-06-2011, 08:01 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-07-2011, 07:23 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Rubensgt40 - 11-07-2011, 02:51 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-07-2011, 02:56 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - eaadams - 11-07-2011, 03:22 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-07-2011, 04:16 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Ernesto - 11-07-2011, 07:24 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-08-2011, 07:27 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - eaadams - 11-08-2011, 09:43 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-08-2011, 09:59 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Ernesto - 11-08-2011, 02:27 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-08-2011, 02:50 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Ernesto - 11-08-2011, 03:34 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-09-2011, 07:20 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Ernesto - 11-09-2011, 07:47 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-09-2011, 09:34 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Rubensgt40 - 11-09-2011, 05:51 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Ernesto - 11-09-2011, 06:20 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Rubensgt40 - 11-09-2011, 06:57 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-09-2011, 07:28 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Ernesto - 11-10-2011, 07:45 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-10-2011, 09:32 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Rubensgt40 - 11-10-2011, 03:40 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Ernesto - 11-10-2011, 05:13 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - eaadams - 11-10-2011, 05:16 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-10-2011, 07:08 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - eaadams - 11-10-2011, 07:30 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Ernesto - 11-10-2011, 07:34 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-10-2011, 08:06 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Ernesto - 11-10-2011, 08:09 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-10-2011, 08:20 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Ernesto - 11-10-2011, 08:33 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-10-2011, 09:03 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Ernesto - 11-11-2011, 07:12 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-11-2011, 07:28 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - EWagner - 11-11-2011, 10:08 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - rapidrhrep - 11-11-2011, 10:18 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-11-2011, 10:22 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - rapidrhrep - 11-11-2011, 10:31 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-11-2011, 10:34 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - rapidrhrep - 11-11-2011, 10:52 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-11-2011, 10:59 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Ernesto - 11-11-2011, 04:13 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - eaadams - 11-11-2011, 04:16 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Ernesto - 11-11-2011, 04:21 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - eaadams - 11-11-2011, 05:56 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Rubensgt40 - 11-13-2011, 06:00 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - eaadams - 11-13-2011, 06:07 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Rubensgt40 - 11-13-2011, 08:01 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-13-2011, 08:21 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-16-2011, 11:49 AM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - eaadams - 11-16-2011, 12:20 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-16-2011, 12:31 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Ernesto - 11-16-2011, 04:45 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-16-2011, 04:57 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Ernesto - 11-16-2011, 05:18 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - eaadams - 11-16-2011, 06:23 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Ernesto - 11-16-2011, 06:35 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - eaadams - 11-16-2011, 06:52 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - Ernesto - 11-16-2011, 07:12 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - eaadams - 11-16-2011, 07:26 PM
RE: MMS- Are some unreliable with high RH? - CC Solutions - 11-17-2011, 07:56 AM

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