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08-30-2013, 12:11 PM #1
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I will be conducting RH testing for a flooring contractor who has NEVER performed any type of moisture test in their 20+ years in business. Hard to believe, but it explains the flooring failures I have heard rumors of over the years. Certainly hope they will see the benefit when I'm done.

JK Nixon
Concrete Restoration Services, LLC
Pittsburgh, PA
http://www.rhtester.com

09-01-2013, 07:48 AM #2
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I hope they trust your testing and you can explain why and how your results are what they are.

The adhesives used today are really some of the best ever produced. I am amazed at how well they work, even when conditions aren't anywhere close to what they should be.

I understand how a company can forego testing and still have a great percentage of success. But with accurate testing I know that same company will dramatically reduce the possibility of failures due to moisture and alkalinity.

In other words, by spending a few dollars conducting good RH testing, the flooring installer dramatically reduces their risk exposure.

That's money in the bank! Wink

JD Grafton
Concrete Answers for Flooring Problems
JGrafton@ccsolves.com

09-01-2013, 12:29 PM #3
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In this case, I have personally seen the results from their lack of following common sense installation practices...like adhesive under welded sheet goods that was as wet as the day it was applied 1 year after installation. The installer even used adhesive like it was Feather Finish as a "filler" in a 1/2" deep spall in the substrate!!!

I think/hope in this case, they're finally realizing shortcuts cost!

JK Nixon
Concrete Restoration Services, LLC
Pittsburgh, PA
http://www.rhtester.com

09-01-2013, 04:38 PM #4
Rubensgt40 Concrete Moisture Coach ***
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Well I'm glad to hear business is ticking over JK! If the "I've never moisture tested in 20,000 years" brigade are starting to see the light, then it's only a good thing.

I just picked up phase #1 of a huge hospital extension in Geelong, Vic. Things are looking up here too- not holding my breath- but it's promising.

Jason will tell you that the nature of the complaints and aversion to thorough testing here, is exactly what you guys have been hearing for years.

The problem with socialism is that you soon run out of other people's money.
- Margaret Thatcher


09-01-2013, 06:04 PM #5
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As they say, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drinkBig Grin

JK Nixon
Concrete Restoration Services, LLC
Pittsburgh, PA
http://www.rhtester.com

01-16-2014, 07:45 PM #6
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I have quite a few colleagues out here who just do not ever test. Their motto is "Seal it and forget it". That would include many box stores. lol

Stephen Perrera dba
Top Floor Installation Co.
http://www.tucsonazflooring.com
http://www.floorsavior.com

01-30-2014, 12:23 AM #7
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(09-01-2013, 12:29 PM)CCR Wrote:  The installer even used adhesive like it was Feather Finish as a "filler" in a 1/2" deep spall in the substrate!!!

I was once told by a technical manager at a company to skim coat the bead blasted floor with adhesive to smooth out the floor & to use it in joints as a filler.

He no longer is employed with the company.

But I will say, Ardex is way behind with products for use under all the new high moisture adhesives.








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