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Bad, Bad Testing

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I am now moving away from ICRI as a testing authority. What contractors have done in California is they have a senior 'guy' who has worked for the firm for his whole career retire. Then he goes and gets an ICRI cert. Then when I tell someone to go to the ICRI website they hire XYZ company to do testing. Then XYZ company comes in and does testing and the 'guy' pushes the work to his old shop who then switches the product out. (probably with some level of referral or kickback)

So, now, I am taking the ICRI out of my testing specs and am requiring the tester to be independent from any manufacturer or subcontractor on the project. And if I find out that the above is going on, I will throw them under the bus. Also I am pushing that the testing firm has to do 'materials testing' aka more than just moisture as I usually know the 'retired guy' isn't going to have / isn't smart enough to get through the school to get a PE after his name. Key is to not let the PE's do 1869 testing since they never do it right and almost always get false low test results. The best moisture only testing firms I work with have very strict statements of non-collusion and non-involvement in their literature and contract. Those people I can trust. Just cant trust ICRI's list anymore to have pro's on it. Heck, there is one tester on the ICRI list I called up and asked for RH testing. He didn't even have RH testing equipment. Said 'oh well the dome test is good enough for most people'. I don't think ICRI does a good enough job on re-certification. You should have to be re-certified every few years minimum or get taken off the list.

I also have to be careful about the moisture sealing companies. I caught one of them referring my questions to one of my competitors because they don't have a great marketing effort out here and rely on this sub to do their 'bidding' but that sub also has a flooring business that competes with me.

Like I now have as a mantra. You have to be careful to avoid a fox & hen-house issue.
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Bad, Bad Testing - CCR - 12-18-2012, 02:35 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - Rubensgt40 - 12-18-2012, 08:15 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - CCR - 12-19-2012, 05:20 AM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - Rubensgt40 - 12-19-2012, 03:07 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - CCR - 12-19-2012, 04:00 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - CC Solutions - 12-20-2012, 08:09 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - CCR - 12-20-2012, 08:34 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - CC Solutions - 12-20-2012, 09:32 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - eaadams - 12-22-2012, 12:24 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - CCR - 12-22-2012, 01:02 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - eaadams - 12-22-2012, 01:46 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - CC Solutions - 12-22-2012, 02:54 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - eaadams - 12-23-2012, 11:50 AM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - CCR - 12-23-2012, 12:30 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - Rubensgt40 - 12-29-2012, 04:43 AM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - CC Solutions - 12-29-2012, 10:26 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - Rubensgt40 - 12-30-2012, 06:30 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - CC Solutions - 12-30-2012, 06:45 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - CCR - 01-03-2013, 10:36 AM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - jim decker - 03-21-2013, 08:41 AM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - CC Solutions - 03-21-2013, 12:02 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - jim decker - 03-21-2013, 01:26 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - CC Solutions - 03-21-2013, 02:48 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - jim decker - 03-21-2013, 03:31 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - Rubensgt40 - 03-21-2013, 06:29 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - CC Solutions - 03-21-2013, 06:58 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - Rubensgt40 - 03-21-2013, 07:47 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - CC Solutions - 03-22-2013, 03:28 AM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - hausenheimer - 03-24-2013, 06:06 AM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - CCR - 03-24-2013, 06:40 AM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - Rubensgt40 - 03-24-2013, 04:13 PM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - CC Solutions - 03-25-2013, 05:43 AM
RE: Bad, Bad Testing - hausenheimer - 03-28-2013, 08:45 AM

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